posted March 30, 2009 10:12 PM         

Perhaps that's why? What's your Draco like?

posted March 30, 2009 10:21 PM         

I'm a bit fed up with this type of thinking. It's like the other day when an aethiest guest got told everyone who believed in God has a mental illness. In my mum's house. In front of me. In front of my mum knowing full well what our opinions are. It's a bit like that. Not sure if being inferred with (no) thoughts in my mind is RESPECTFUL.

posted March 30, 2009 11:59 PM           

A number of people have expressed that opinion.

Some Thoughts
To Clarify My Stance:

I am making efforts to live in accordance with my highest visions,
but, just because I can see the truth, doesnt make me less human.

I stumble, and I openly admit to stumbling, and I dont let that stop me,
from speaking the truth and from trying my best to live in accordance with it.

I am not asking anyone to do more, or even as much, as I have done, there.
If you are willing to think about these things, and maybe even consider
eating meat one less night a week, I think that would be wonderful.

My highest moral vision is truly stark and uncompromising, yes,
but I also know how to make allowances for people's weaknesses.

For my own, for yours, and for everybody else's.
Maybe that seems hypocritical or paradoxical to you,
but it makes an awful lot of sense from where I am standing.

Albert Camus once wrote that it is silly for non-Christians
to demand that Christians live according to a higher ethics,
simply because their ethical vision is higher than most.
We are all equally subject to the same higher ethics,
whether or not we preach it, or deny it, or live it, or try to live it.

Schopenhauer was attacked in his day for his lofty teachings on ethics,
and his defense was to say that, a man can teach about a field of knowledge,
without being employed in that field; in other words, that a professor
who teaches archeology does not have to be an archeologist in order for his work
to contribute to the development of archeology and archeological research.

I think that words are actions, and that,
speaking the truth is next to living the truth.
Hardly anybody is capable of living the truth, but,
that should not prevent the truth from being spoken and heard.

I am well aware of my guilt and complicity in the animal holocaust.
I take full responsibility for that, and my words are a rebuke to myself,
just as they are a rebuke to all of us, caught up in this madness.
I confess, the best I can say is that I am not looking the other way,
and that I am making daily efforts to remove this vice from myself,
and from the world; for, to me, the world and myself are not so different.

I hope that clarifies my postion for you somewhat.

I am making a sincere effort to be mature and rational with every one of you here,
and I want to thank you for appreciating that and showing me the same respect.

peace to you
HSC

posted March 31, 2009 11:53 AM         

my irish forbears (and i mean my immediate predecessors as well as earlier) were BIG meat and dairy consumers. not one of them had cancer and only one died before 75 and that was of TB at a VERY early age. it IS possible that tb can be milk-borne, especially in the early part of the century when mass production was flourishing but controls were not...my namesake lived to be 99 on a pretty typical meat and potatoes irish type diet, and what killed her was not disease but being imprisoned in a wheelchair after breaking a hip at 98.

lara i love hearing your opinions and experiences but not everything you believe is FACT for EVERYONE...

once again, what jesus said concerning it being more important what comes OUT of your mouth than what goes in...

posted March 31, 2009 12:01 PM           

corn beef and cabbage YUMMY!

got me to thinking - people eat meat because they are hungry for it. if we listen to our bodies, it tells us what we need. we get hungry for whatever has the nutrients we lack. thats my TRUTH.

posted March 31, 2009 12:08 PM           

99 percent of scurvy of the bones is linked to calcium and vitamin c deficieincy.

posted March 31, 2009 12:10 PM           

Its great that you are thinking about this stuff,
and keeping an open ear for what others have to say.

In my experience,
having been on both sides of this...

We crave what we are conditioned to crave.
We are habituated to foods, hence, we crave them.
When you transform your diet, you stop craving those things.

Healthy food (grains, nuts, fruits and vegetables) begins to taste better,
while meat and processed foods begin to taste artificial and a little scummy.

Our tastebuds are also totally bombarded with strong artificial flavors.
It takes a while, after setting aside the dressings and toppings,
before we can appreciate the wholesome taste of the bare salad,
and before it tastes even better to us than the dressed salad did.

The body, then, begins to communicate with you,
and the body, not the addiction, lets you know what it needs.

On top of that, you start to feel
trememdously healthier and more energized.

I need to remember and get back to that place.

posted March 31, 2009 12:15 PM           

Also,

To respond to your other point:

The devoted blessing of a Master
cannot be compared with the casual
blessings we ordinary folk make.

And I doubt that even a Master
could bless the devil out of that meat.

Well, maybe Buddha.

He blessed the devil right out of himself.

posted March 31, 2009 12:20 PM           

that doesnt really help your arguement in my book.

why do PETA poeple throw red paint to be non violent and demonstrate how wrong cruelty to animals is?

am i the next target with my leather purse, gloves, car seats and shoes?

which leads me to another question - to you vegetarians and vegans - do you wear or use leather products? i would assume vegans don't.

i like salt, i like sugar, i like chocolate and i crave red meat halfway cooked right before my cycle...actually prefer my sugar, then salt, then sugar then salt. women have needs. i prefer not to deny myself the things i like, as i really dont see a purpose in self denial. ok eat to live healthy then get hit by a car tomorrow?

good motto :

you can't kill a man born to hang.

to me a salad with no dressing and life without big flavor is like living in black and white. i want to taste EVERYTHING! i want to see every color.

and furthermore the bible says - as a man thinketh in his heart so is he

so if i bless my food and consider it to bless my body, surely it will.

posted March 31, 2009 12:23 PM           

PETA can be pretty screwed up.

posted March 31, 2009 12:34 PM           

my friend just butchered a hog.
61 cents a pound for a freezer full of meat.

you can buy grainfed beef around these parts.
you can raise your own chickens. you can raise your own cow and hog too.

organically if you choose.

use the waste to compost and i gaurantee your garden will produce a high yield of vegetables. everyone has anopinion. i eat meat.