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katatonic
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posted April 05, 2009 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
i think timeouts are important for one's mental health...it is all too easy to get sucked into an unhealthy relationship with online communities. i've seen it here and other places, too. or i should say i've experienced it!

but i have also seen genuine friendships started here and other forums (fora actually) and a lot of great information traded, and thought provoked.

like i said i find it works best if i remind myself i might just meet these people face to face and i don't want to get a kicking when i do!! my dad was in show business and he always referred to an old actor's proverb:

"be careful who you kick on your way up the ladder,you never know who you'll meet on your way down!"

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writesomething
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posted April 05, 2009 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for writesomething     Edit/Delete Message
LOL lara

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Lara
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From: London
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posted April 05, 2009 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
yup Katatonic, l 100% agree! I honestly don't think i have kicked anyone's butt on here though. I have had heated discussions but that is impersonal verbal banter. I have not gotten personal. LEXX thought l had with her but l didn't, l was just asking her to look at a few posts again from another's point of view.
If someone asks "what's my AC" and you give an answer based on facial features and how they come across, they then can't get all shirty if they don't like what you say! Better to say "I'm a Leo AC, what do you think?" than to give options if you can't handle the response.

It's important to keep everything in context and it's not easy when you are on the end of a sophisticated typewriter with no visual appreciation of someone's mood or reactions. N'est pas?

BTW Katatonic, cool myspace profile !


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LEXX
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From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion!
Registered: Jan 2008

posted April 05, 2009 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Lara said:
quote:
Personal attacks are really out of order l feel,
especially when they ARE so personal and not just a reaction to a heated discussion about the subject of the thread.
I agree!
However you defended HSC....and your above I quoted... was exactly what HSC did!!!.
quote:
I honestly don't think i have kicked anyone's butt on here though.
I have had heated discussions but that is impersonal verbal banter.
I have not gotten personal. LEXX thought l had with her but l didn't,
l was just asking her to look at a few posts again from another's point of view.
No, you did not personally have a go at me...I never thought that.
However you did side with/condone what HSC did.
You accused me of taunting him which I do not feel I was doing.
I started by defending MVM when he insulted her for asking if he is a vegetarian....
and then I too wanted to know....
and it was a very valid question considering the topic of his thread and all.
He continued to evade the question and was again rude to me and MVM.
I did nothing wrong.
He admitted to being jealous...as his motive for going totally off topic of the thread..
which was:
Do People EAT MEAT To Be CRUEL??
I also see that you changed and or deleted all of your posts on that thread.
Here is the one where you accused me of taunting him.
quote:
EDIT: LEXX, to be fair you did taunt HSC. I can see it with my own eyes.
Why the hell should he reply to your question?
and when he doesn't you insult him so please don't try to now braid your hair and suck on a lolly pop.

MVM asked him, I asked him...if he was a vegetarian.
Anyone reading that thread can see the head games he was playing
to evade a valid question in context with the thread topic.
He was very rude to MVM..and .then to me.
Insult hm?
Well..what did these remarks have to do with the topic: [b]Do People EAT MEAT To Be CRUEL??[b]

quote:
LEXX,
Time to power-down, robocop.

And go snuggle with your hunky boy-toy.


quote:

Talk about DENIAL.

I don't believe anything you say.

How is that?

Better?

Or you want more of my thoughts?

I'd hate to be evasive.



quote:

You are being very rude.

And if you say more mean sh-t,
I'll say anything I can think of
to hit your nerves right back.



Then being rude to MVM again.
quote:

MVM,

oh, okay...

I just looked back at page 1

You wrote right after my first resply to LEXX. My "b".

Looks to me like you were impatient and rude.

You didnt get a response to your huge post right away,
and you proceeded to use confrontational language.
Maybe I am still misunderstanding something?



Then back to taunting and insulting me and my relationship and my husband.
quote:
LEXX,

It is rude...

But I did not direct it to anyone.

Your husband is a figment of your imagination.




Then he admits to his basis for being rude to me,
which has nothing to do with the topic of the thread, nor my asking if he is a vegetarian.
quote:


Maybe I am just jealous of the happiness you have found?
I cannot deny that a devoted partner is something I ache for daily.



And that is my problem? I cannot fix his loneliness.
But to lash out at me...
And I do not deserve to be treated unkindly for asking a valid question and for asking a question relevant to the thread he started, nor more than did MVM either.


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A show of envy is an insult to oneself. ~Yevgeny Alexandrovich Yevtushenko
The jealous are troublesome to others, but a torment to themselves.
~William Penn, Some Fruits of Solitude, 1693

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Lara
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posted April 05, 2009 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know LEXX. I only keep cooked food in my fridge for a couple of days and then l throw it out. I wouldn't wanna get food poisoning

I think the whole thread should be looked at in full because this is piece meal and piece meal is, like a movie trailer, full of only the best cuts.
If you rewind to the beginning l think my reasons for asking you to back off from pushing HSC into answering a question he clearly was not ready to answer were valid.

As l said, this is yesterday's news... fish n' chip paper.

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Lara
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posted April 05, 2009 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
PS. I absolutely have NOT changed any of my posts as in doctored them. I have deleted all my recent ones because l didn't wish to leave bad karma on LL when it has been so good to me.

I deleted all my comments on the Indigo thread because no one was interested!

Why am l even explaining myself and why are you bringing all this up again now when l have personally apologized to you for any hurt l caused you?!!

Is there not a cut off point with you, or a boundary between past and present that we can now utilize?

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LEXX
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From: Still out looking for Schrödinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion!
Registered: Jan 2008

posted April 05, 2009 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Lara...
Thank you for politely explaining about your posts!
Yes, I want to put it behind.
You brought it up.
Yes you apologized.
I accept.
However I did not deserve the way HSC treated me...nor did MVM.
Hopefully he will stop going off topic to toss out personal insults for no valid reason
to those who do not deserve it.
There is more back story to why his remarks were so insulting to me...but no need to air it here.
Lets all move past this latest whatever.

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A show of envy is an insult to oneself. ~Yevgeny Alexandrovich Yevtushenko
The jealous are troublesome to others, but a torment to themselves.
~William Penn, Some Fruits of Solitude, 1693

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koiflower
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From: Australia
Registered: Jun 2008

posted April 06, 2009 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
The following is information that I use when I'm explaining my approach to reading. I try to come in with right brained solutions in my lessons, as our society is crammed with left brained thinking.

quote:

Using Prosody in Reading

In linguistics, prosody (from Greek pros¨­id¨ªa) is the rhythm, stress, and intonation of connected speech (as opposed to smaller elements like syllables or words). Prosody may reflect various features of the speaker or the utterance: the emotional state of a speaker; whether an utterance is a statement, a question, or a command¡­.

Acoustically, the prosodics of oral languages involve variation in syllable length, loudness, pitch, and the formant frequencies of speech sounds. In cued speech and sign languages, prosody involves the rhythm, length, and tenseness of gestures, along with mouthing and facial expressions. Prosody is absent in writing¡­.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosody_(linguistics)


In contrast, prosodic language functions, such as intonation and accentuation, often are lateralized to the right hemisphere of the brain.[7][8] Functions such as the processing of visual and audiological stimuli, spatial manipulation, facial perception, and artistic ability seem to be functions of the right hemisphere.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lateralization_of_brain_function


I guess I'm posting this in response to Lara's comment of having no visual appreciation of someone's mood or reactions.

Because there is no way to experience prosody online, then we are left with more left-brained ways of deciphering the text we are reading. The left-brain is analytical.

But that doesn't make it right or wrong - just a barrier in communication, in which we need to work harder at understanding what has been said.

I must admit, comments can set off an emotional reaction in me - but I still try and work hard at choosing a way to deal with it. Once I had to walk away, and vent to my partner because a comment upset me.

Anyway, I love this place, as I'm sure all (or most) do. We are a community of people rubbing shoulders and trying to make sense of life together.

Big hugs - 'cos I feel like a group hug now

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