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Topic: Was Jesus Married?
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athenegoddess
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posted September 19, 2012 09:04 PM
  
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Originally posted by Love&Light:
@ athenegoddess: Sorry, i am going off topic here but i wanted to know when you are going to shed some light on a topic in Aquarius Rising about Aquarius Age, as you promised. I think it has slipped your mind, so just a gentle reminder. I didn't know where to catch your attention so i did here. We are waiting...... 
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Lei_Kuei
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posted September 19, 2012 09:09 PM
@Athene: Your a case study in the irrational subjective nature of what one deems to be true... sigh  quote:
The goal is to become one with your higher self and this higher self is your true self which is all powerful all knowing infinite consciousness.
Do you feel you yourself have achieved this? quote:
I have a question.. what led you to this site? I mean astrology doesn't have any 'logical proof' as you put it..
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athenegoddess
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posted September 19, 2012 09:15 PM
You keep saying I deem it to be true. It's not my truth. It's not human beliefs. It is the only truth! The way, the truth, and the life!There is only way divine truth manifests in this dimension. Humans have dreamed the tree of good and evil which is wrong. The truth is ONE and that is the christ consciousness. The tree of knowledge bears fruit in all seasons. Again when he said, I AM the way, the truth, and the life. He meant my consciousness and my way is the way, the truth, and the life and that is what we all need to achieve. Including You. Nobody is free from it. We all are on the same path which is the path of the soul. What is preventing you from seeing this is the many reincarnations of your soul being disconnected from this truth that its so far away from you that it seems impossible for you to see it or feel it. Your EGO is rampant. You need to disconnect from your Ego and connect to the oneness that lies within your heart flame. It's inside of you it's a sleeping splendor. Quite your ego and feel deeply.
Your ego doesn't survive death does it? The only thing that survives death is the soul which is the higher self. Connect with that which doesn't die. Human beliefs die. Everything that you think you are right now is wrong because this is only one lifetime. There is something inside of you that stays the same throughout all your incarnations and that will stay the same forever. It will always be you FOREVER. This is the truth.
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Lei_Kuei
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posted September 19, 2012 09:32 PM
@Athene: Yes, I keep saying "your" truth until you provide me with evidence that proves otherwise, in all our conversations I feel you have yet to demonstrate such.Hmm you seem to be a Christ Consciousness sales person, but I remain unconvinced. A good sales person should have, a plethora of documented evidence as to the existence of their product, its effects and usefulness, yet all you seem to be showing me is just your own subjective inference. Not buying, sry! 
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athenegoddess
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posted September 19, 2012 09:36 PM
well don't buy it. that is your path and you will have to keep evolving until you reach this level. when your soul leaves your body and you are confronted by the christ and all the ascended masters... you will feel deep pain as everyone who ever denied this part of themselves. it's ok. you know not what you do. when i speak these words to you, it is my hope that your higher self activates but it's not activating. this gives me great sadness for you. and i cant continue trying to help you because it's draining my energy. you ask for proof.. you question if the king of kings ever existed. what kind of proof could you possibly have? we have the words he spoke! what more proof do you want?
you see, the reason we haven't been given more tangible PROOF is because only those who can FEEL the truth are qualified enough to achieve the truth. Not everyone is qualified for that. This is the beauty of life and the way it has been laid for us. It will never be given proof. Never. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted September 19, 2012 09:41 PM
I believe LK is a Discordian, and Discordians tend to reject dogma. Now we all have Ego, but I think Discordians are the most likely to not be imprisoned by it (for better and for worse, as even Ego exists for a reason that lets us function in the world, though like anything else a good thing can turn bad without balance). Or maybe even they are too wrapped up in it like everyone else, but in a different than usual way. But I don't want to get too much on Discordian thealogy (I spelled it that way on purpose) here (hush your giggling all you Discordians in the peanut gallery). The ironic bit is that most religions that claim to be above ego are themselves victim of it. I believe it's what psychology refers to as the self-serving bias, and it's made of ego. "I don't understand why they say the self-serving bias is universal. I mean, I see it in other people, but I personally don't have a self-serving bias." --college student commenting on this. An atheist gives his perspective here, and while I'm not meaning to endorse everything he claims (even in this vid which I haven't seen in a long time), I do think he explains how religion "beyond ego" and ego intersect well in a great many people:
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Lei_Kuei
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posted September 19, 2012 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I believe LK is a Discordian, and Discordians tend to reject dogma.
Indeed, coupled with Agnosticism & Cosmicism, I'm always looking for interesting "ism's" to add to my collection  Good points Pix, somehow I just struggle to disagree with you, because your philosophy seems to hover in close proximity to my own... EDIT - OMFG! That video Pix linked is pure Gold! Wow! ------------------
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Love&Light
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posted September 19, 2012 11:47 PM
@Lei_Kuei quote:
Originally posted by Lei_Kuei:
I did read it, yet her whole theory as you see such seems hinged around some unseen realm that one most blindly accept without a moments critical thinking. I fail to see where logic enters into that equation?
Are you enlightened? I am sure you are not so do some actual spiritual development first then talk of logic. Because logic is only limited upto the perifery of your awareness. Get more awareness then logic will automatically expand. The rest what you do and pretend to show as brainy discussions are nothing but empty and senseless arguments which get nowhere really. As far as convincing is concerned nobody has to convince persons like you. If you choose to keep your mind closed under the pretence of being 'scientific' there is nothing that anybody can or would do. And why should they. You can continue to be in your ignorance. Only don't try to fool yourself or others into thinking or believing that you have a scientific approach. Because scientific approach begins with OPEN MIND AND FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE - WHICH YOU LACK. So.....you only beat round the bush. Please continue....... @ PixieJane Yes astral forms can be created and manipulated. BUT these things don't fool the ones who are in the higher realms. Beyond the Causal bodies, who come from the Source which we call in India as Parabrahma. When they are guiding their disciples and such entities like Jesus come and help them the Higher ones would know if they(Jesus or such others) were just astral projects or manipulated etc. And mind you they take their business pretty seriously so no one can interfere or manipulate the help to their disciple and if someone is that foolish or naive they will know immediately what they are in for. Hence the importance of Sadguru. It is unparalleled. He will guide you to the source through all this. And these interferences are limitless not just in astral but even beyond - till the source. So many hindrances and confusions. Hence Sadgurus are revered here. Anyways, many of them have endorsed Jesus's (as well as others like him) presence then and even now. He has given guidance which a mere astral projection cannot. Only the one who has this light, the power, the knowledge, in short HIS force, can. He definately existed.
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Lei_Kuei
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posted September 20, 2012 01:37 AM
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Are you enlightened? I am sure you are not so do some actual spiritual development first then talk of logic.
I don't know, depends on ones definition: Grabbing a few examples from the internet: [Google] & [Audio English.net]
1. Having or showing a rational, modern, and well-informed outlook.
2. Spiritually aware.
3. Tending to increase knowledge or dissipate ignorance
4. Enlightening or uplifting so as to encourage intellectual or moral improvement [Yahoo Answers]
When you are enlightened , you know the difference between what is right and wrong , between what is true and false , and between what is relevant or not . You simply are wiser with more understanding and discernment as well as insight into many things . And this makes you a better educated and learned person who knows more than others . As a result , you are a cut above the rest . [http://healing.about.com]
This is something I consider Enlightenment to be - and that is to give intellectual or spiritual understanding and to be free of ignorance, false beliefs or prejudice. Able to honor each person as they walk their own path and not infringe our own personal beliefs onto them but to accept what ever form that carries truth for them. - Jean Seymour I would never claim to be enlightened, but I do try to be all of the above, as I feel we all should and can be! As regards the spirituality you infer that I lack well... Since I was 4 years old I had an awareness of my previous life's existence, and such has continued to exert itself into my life to this day, where I have substantial recall of MANY of my own lives, although Im sure there are millions left unsynced as of yet, Im a patient person. Now whether you care to entertain that or not, and I fully accept that its my own subjective reality, except in the parts where it crosses over with other people who share similar experiences in "this" shared reality. Yet I have almost zero desire/ego to even tell people about such unless I feel its really going to help them - Otherwise its cylon-logic all the way baby! Past Lives, Future Lives On UC I try to help others who are trying to remember their own past lives and such, but without hammering them with dogmatic Christ Consciousness expositions. I prefer a simple logical methodology of helping another human being to understand abstract concepts clearly. Which I feel allows people to explore those concepts in their own ways without any need for me to insert egotistically esoteric ramblings. quote:
Get more awareness then logic will automatically expand.
Perhaps you should improve your logic and then see how your awareness expands? quote:
The rest what you do and pretend to show as brainy discussions are nothing but empty and senseless arguments which get nowhere really
If my arguments are truly empty, you should have zero trouble refuting any of them? Or are you just going to continue a verbal attack upon me and not my arguments? Is this the level of your enlightened awareness. Is this the measure of Christ Consciousness? Again as I said to Athene... I aint buying it. quote:
You can continue to be in your ignorance. Only don't try to fool yourself or others into thinking or believing that you have a scientific approach
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method
The scientific method (or simply scientific method) is a body of techniques for investigating phenomena, acquiring new knowledge, or correcting and integrating previous knowledge.[1] To be termed scientific, a method of inquiry must be based on empirical and measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoningNo comment, my posts when dealing with various subjects speak for themselves... quote:
Because scientific approach begins with OPEN MIND AND FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE - WHICH YOU LACK.
Rolls eyes... All I ask of anyone is to clearly demonstrate how their theories have a basis in reality, if one cannot do that, then how can one be sure what is real and what is your imagination/false hoods? Shouldn't the truth be an aspiration for us all? Im asking people like yourself and others to help us all discover that truth together, where we can examine the cold hard empirical real-world facts wherever they may lead! Excuse me but I need alittle break now... 
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RegardesPlatero
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From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop
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posted September 20, 2012 05:15 AM
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