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Topic: Randal's book
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Pegesus Knowflake Posts: 294 From: Registered: Jan 2001
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posted April 25, 2001 02:31 PM
Yivy, I just wondered what the proposed titles of Randal's book might "have to say"?Maybe that will help him decide. I sure do hope this comes about!! IP: Logged |
thegreyone Knowflake Posts: 520 From: St. John's,NF,Canada Registered: Dec 2000
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posted April 25, 2001 03:18 PM
Great idea Pegesus! I can hardly wait to see what the druids have to say about it.------------------ I have loved,I love,I will love. Grey IP: Logged |
YIVY Knowflake Posts: 4747 From: Louisiana Registered: Nov 2000
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posted April 25, 2001 04:27 PM
Sorry, but they contain all the vowels and therefore are not willing to be LEXIED..GEEZE! A girl has to have some secrets..don't you Linda??? It would have been neat to know though... ------------------
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 16464 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted April 25, 2001 06:21 PM
*sigh*------------------ "The ancestor to every action is a thought." EMERSON IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 16464 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted April 26, 2001 03:17 PM
Perhaps, I should come up with a title with only four vowels!------------------ "The ancestor to every action is a thought." EMERSON IP: Logged |
thegreyone Knowflake Posts: 520 From: St. John's,NF,Canada Registered: Dec 2000
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posted April 26, 2001 05:07 PM
Yeah!Yeah!Yeah! ------------------ I have loved,I love,I will love. Grey IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 16464 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted April 26, 2001 07:24 PM
Unfortunately, "unauthorized" contains all five vowels.------------------ "The ancestor to every action is a thought." EMERSON IP: Logged |
Pegesus Knowflake Posts: 294 From: Registered: Jan 2001
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posted April 26, 2001 07:26 PM
So what's another word for "unauthorized"???Where's a thesaurus(sp) when you need one! IP: Logged |
thegreyone Knowflake Posts: 520 From: St. John's,NF,Canada Registered: Dec 2000
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posted April 26, 2001 08:32 PM
Just off the top of my head: unwarranted, unwarrantable, informal, unofficial,illicit, unallowed.------------------ I have loved,I love,I will love. Grey IP: Logged |
Pegesus Knowflake Posts: 294 From: Registered: Jan 2001
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posted April 26, 2001 09:15 PM
Hmmm....That word "unofficial" kinda jumped out at me. Like this "unofficial" site... IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 16464 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted April 26, 2001 11:49 PM
Traditionally, the words "unauthorized biography" are used. But I guess other words could be substituted. At that point, we're talking about walking a thin grey line. ------------------ "The ancestor to every action is a thought." EMERSON IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 16464 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted April 27, 2001 12:21 AM
Pegesus, you hit it right on the Ram's head (OUCH!). And this is Post 1600 for me. Not a good number, but it is linked with Lincoln (part of Linda's family). ------------------ "The ancestor to every action is a thought." EMERSON IP: Logged |
gooberlily Knowflake Posts: 2296 From: Brooklyn, (and Norwich) NY, USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted April 28, 2001 12:10 AM
Randall, have you actually had a chance to work out the logistics of the title, legally speaking? Just wondering if you had the chance to look up what is legal and what would not be legal in the title. Don't forget I'm working in a law office (at least until the end of this week). If you need any advice, I could ask. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 16464 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted April 28, 2001 01:23 AM
Any legal advice would be appreciated. If I write it, I'm probably going with the original title (a 23), Linda Goodman's Unauthorized Biography, which is irrefutably legal, but I do wonder if other words would hold the same legal protection. ------------------ "The ancestor to every action is a thought." EMERSON IP: Logged |
gooberlily Knowflake Posts: 2296 From: Brooklyn, (and Norwich) NY, USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted April 30, 2001 11:28 PM
I myself obviously can not give legal advice (since I'm not a lawyer), so I would seriously suggest speaking with a lawyer familiar with copyrights and such. The lawyer I work for does mainly Real Estate and Estates. But, the topic did get my curiosity going, so I looked online regarding copyrights and the like, searching under copyrights, trademarks and deceased individuals. This is some of what I found: http://www.institutechildrenslit.com/rx/tr01/veda_boyd_jones.shtml "AnneKelly: If celebrities are still alive and they don't give their consent for a biography, it is then called "unauthorized". I guess the same doesn't hold true if the subject is dead. Can anyone write an unauthorized biography? Veda: I suspect anyone can write an unauthorized biography of a famous person. Kitty Kelly has made a living by doing it. My bio of Tara L. wasn't printed with that caveat, nor have any other children's bios that I've seen. That may be because they are not tell-all books that could get a celebrity riled up." http://pillsburywinthrop.com/practice/pubsdetail.asp?pubid=16394911132000&areaid=59 http://www.cni.org/Hforums/cni-copyright/1999-01/0607.html > "What are the restrictions, if any, about writing a biography of someone > who died in 1952. The person in question was quite well known and > powerful in his lifetime. Also, there are still some family members > alive. Thanks, Alison There should be nbo restrictions at all, since a dead person has no rights in a life story, no right of privacy, nor even a right against defamation. Of course to the extent that people who are still living are likely to be included, portrayed, characterized, and/or quoted in your biography, it may be a good idea to obtain appropiate consents. Of course, as long as you stick to provable non-private facts, you should be able to say what you want about anyone, living or dead, without obtaining permission of any kind. But consents from living persons are a good way of forestalling possible future lawsuits (however frivolous) and of obtaining exclusivity agreements as well. In any case, you should definitely retain and consult with a lawyer conversant with copyright, privacy, defamation, and First Amendment issues." It would be a good idea before you start to know what ownership there is to her name, and what it includes. I browsed around our law library while I was at it. It's all a bit complicated since Linda has passed away, if she were alive it would be a different story. Federal Laws are what you have to take into account, since I believe state laws differ regarding the subject. The relevant things I looked up had to do with defamation of character and privacy issues. Things you might want to look up if you have some free time are the Federal Copyright Act of 1976, effective January 1, 1978, as well as Trade Regulation. By state law searching, you should look up Literary and Artistic Property. To give you some idea, the New York State law states (according to New York Jurisprudence 2nd) Literary and Artistic Property; Rights under State Law; B. Who is entitled to rights, § (section) 16-19 § 16 states: "(General) The law awards the ownership of property in intellectual productions to those who create them (Varconi v Unity Television Corp. 1958 11 misc. 2nd 191, 173 NYS2nd 201) and on the death of the owner, his common-law rights in literary property go to his personal representatives or next of kin as does other personal property (Palmer v DeWitt 1872 47 NY 532). Generally, however, the succesion and transfer of copyrights are controlled by Federal Law. Under prior law, title to a manuscript or literary work could be gained by adverse possession if one had been in continuous, open and notorious possession and maintained exclusive right thereto as against the world." Having to do with Biographies (I looked it up in the index) you would also consult the sections of the law having to do with Defamation and Defamation and Privacy. The internet is a valuable resource, I hope I've at least pointed you in the right direction. I would suggest when you finally sit down and start writing to first contact a lawyer and ask his advice regarding the matter. Better to be safe than sorry! IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 16464 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted May 01, 2001 05:58 AM
I don't plan on writing anything at all defamatory, and I will get signed releases from everybody that I talk to, so I don't anticipate any problems. Thanks for all the info, Goober! ------------------ "The ancestor to every action is a thought." EMERSON IP: Logged |
gooberlily Knowflake Posts: 2296 From: Brooklyn, (and Norwich) NY, USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted May 01, 2001 10:36 PM
No prob IP: Logged |
oceanwench38 Knowflake Posts: 723 From: Toronto Registered: May 2001
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posted May 24, 2001 04:17 PM
how about..."Linda Goodman: Magi of a New Age" Randall, I cannot imagine you would have any trouble from anyone who is reasonable and who sees that you have created and maintained this website from/with Love and Integrity. how about.... "Come Back Linda" Well, pretty much finished reading Star Signs....even my oh-so-logical baby brother is a little *stumped* It was incredible....still have to read "melodies" and I am just starting "physical immortality".... Wow...the thing about the red diet and losing weight was great! I play the drums and if I think about it, and look back, it was not until a few years ago when I was too busy to play them that I put on weight. In fact, I stopped wearing red. I used to have tons of red in my closet, now it is mostly blue or green or PURPLE(my fave!) how about... "Amazing Linda" I cannot wait to read your book! Heather
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 16464 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted May 24, 2001 10:29 PM
Thanks, Heather. Your opinion means a lot to me. ------------------ "The ancestor to every action is a thought." EMERSON IP: Logged |
chronicprincess Knowflake Posts: 3080 From: Earth Registered: May 2001
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posted May 25, 2001 01:48 PM
Randall, spiral on this? I'm wondering if the word "unauthorized" is keeping from you that special confirmation you are waiting to reach you...Maybe it's just me but that word doesn't seem to enhance the name, Linda Goodman ...I vote you invent a new word I think Linda wants you to! (just going on gut feelings here) I am in love with this site - thank you to everyone who ponders outloud here IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 16464 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted May 25, 2001 02:52 PM
You may be right, Katii. Any suggestions?------------------ "The ancestor to every action is a thought." EMERSON IP: Logged |
chronicprincess Knowflake Posts: 3080 From: Earth Registered: May 2001
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posted May 31, 2001 04:55 AM
Do you have to use the word biography?"Also Known as Linda Goodman" Linda's mind is in a good man a son in Linda sing's an ang*l song so known as good in Linda Land all is now now is all goin' on on on I think that comes up to a 25/7 ? Hmmmmmm.... Discrimination and Analysis ~ but You are a 19 IP: Logged |
Pegesus Knowflake Posts: 294 From: Registered: Jan 2001
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posted May 31, 2001 01:38 PM
Randal, I think I agree with ChronicPrincess.Something about that word "unauthorized". Usually when I see that word I think there's going to be a lot of "dirt" on that person. But I can't imagine even perceiving the maybe not so flattering (or maybe even embarrassing) aspects of Linda's life as "dirt". (Now I'm not saying she has embarrassing aspects, but IF some are uncovered...) I don't know if I'm even making sense but that word bothers me too. Unfortuantely I can't think of another one but if something "comes to me" I'll let you know. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 16464 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted April 20, 2002 09:18 AM
------------------ "It is never too late to become what you might have been." George Eliot IP: Logged |