posted September 05, 2006 01:13 AM         

I got the following; but it's ongoing and surely it hasn't finished. I'd very much appreciate your help (*= derived from VEGETARIANISM; NOTE: the two words have not been combined)!

get; veg; veterans; vets; gets; I get; age; ages; ants; rats; nets; sang (French: blood); eat; eats; I eat; it; it eats; Arians; *Arianism; I, an Arian; star; strange; rivet; *riveting; Reaves; see; sing; anti; anti(-)Arians; *anti(-)Arianism; neat; great; trans(-); are; is; isn't; aren't; ain't; giants; vie (French: life); vita (Italian: life); ANS (autonomic nervous system); varians; trine; trines; greets; greet; satan; anti(-)satan; re(-); grin; grins; tea; teas; vain; in vain; *I am anti-meat-eating; *meet a mate; *meet ten mates; tri(-); *eat a mate; *eat ten mates; *Germans; *German; *Germaine(s); *man; *men; Eve; eve; Eva; *Ave Maria; against; *teams; manger (an English word; but with a different meaning in French: to eat); anger; *smear; gras; vines; veins; ran; Greta; rain; it rains; rise; *rising; arise; sin; vegetarians sin; vegetarianism is a great sin; tear (v/n); tears; reine (French= queen); *marine; *anima; ta; Sie/sie (German= You ["vous" in French) and she respectively); vans; near; nears; meer; great men; men sin; men sin against men; men eat men; men eat mates; men eat meat; enter; entre (French); entres (French); enters; rant; mat; rants; *semi(-); men eat rats; men eat ants; rats eat men; rats eat ants; ants eat men; ants eat rats; sane; seat; vets meet vets; sea; *smite; *smites; stare; rage; enrage; *veterans meet/smite/eat/tear/greet/grin at/stare at/see/get/met/sin against/enrage veterans; mit (German= with); Gere; Geer (both are surnames); Nigeria; sage; *magi...

I'm confused. I haven't sorted all of them out, so there's still plenty of room for thought.

posted June 18, 2009 08:54 AM         

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anger;

vegetarians sin;

vegetarianism is a great sin;

men sin against men;

*veterans meet/smite/eat/tear/greet/grin at/stare at/see/get/met/sin against/enrage veterans in vain;

men eat men;

men eat mates;

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I hope I don't look like I am acting confused again- because, I think, after such a long time, for the first time ever, I am beginning to contemplate what impacts vegetarianism has made in the West.

I just came across with something very saddening, very distressing, very distorting, very twisted, very evil today. I see the boomrang effect pointing directly at us vegetarians and vegans

Activist vegetarians and vegans in the West, not like their fellow vegetarians in the ancient East, have been applying a certain approach to spread the vegetarian message, so to speak- often in violent ways.

Hate begets hate; anger begets anger.

Take one of my former veg organizations for instance- their Q&A in their Special Magazine were full of sarcastic answers to omnivores who would ask us vegetarians or vegans a question. This is wrong- so wrong. Sarcasm is the worst way for communication. Imagine how we would make an omnivore feel after we have answered her or him in a sarcastic, condescending manner. This particular group has done a great deal of good, but they are wrong to teach us sarcasm, wrong to justify one of themselves as a "Grumpy old vegan"- if you're grumpy, the meat eater you know will get grumpy too- and you've lost the battle. Because you've used the wrong strategies.

Pouring a bunch of horse manure outside of a famous chef's restaurant which serves horse meat- that's so wrong. Do they really think they could enlighten the chef in question by this violent act? Do they really think they could enlighten meat eaters by speaking to them sarcastically?

Splashing red paint onto a female pedestrian who's wearing fur...again, do they honestly believe that this will inspire the woman in fur? Or more likely to incur her hatred toward any given vegan/vegetarian, and vegetarianism?

Setting off stinking bombs in animal labs...maybe they had made their point. But remember, hate begets hate.

Saying publically "We should bomb McDonald's!" and causing someone to act this out- again, totally wrong tactics, and you've lost the war.

I am thinking hate crime. Hate crime toward different races, different sexual orientations, different sexuality, now- even toward vegetarians and vegans- and many of us are not even among those extremists/fanatics.

I am beholding something profoundly saddening, profoundly evil- but to my mind, this phenomenon appears to be the product of radical vegetarianism and radical animal rights activism. Particularly the issues concerning vegetarianism and meatism in the West are horrendous. I dread to see this happening right before my eyes.

And the distortion of the truth.

And lack of mutual respect.

Lots of things are wrong about western vegetarianism and western veganism.

We as vegans and vegetarians need to live a life that does not contradict our ideals for peace, love, well-being, and all the goodness.

D

posted June 18, 2009 09:16 AM         

My fellow vegetarians: if you choose to keep silent, to keep it to yourself, while managing not to suffer as a meek vegetarian- that's good enough, and by living by example, you contribute a great deal more to the vegetarian movement. By contrast, if you apply the wrong strategies, you lose the war, worse still- you pay the price dearer than you have ever imagine.

D

posted June 28, 2009 10:59 AM         

Respect and live in harmony with Mother Nature.

posted June 30, 2009 08:01 PM         

IF only those vegan or vegetarian animal rights activists could ever, but I mean, EVER, understand!!!!!!!!!!!!

For goodness'sake, they make more vegetarian haters than vegetarians!

How ironic is THAT?

They better THINK real hard. IF they do have the equipment to THINK!

D

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Some to misery are born;
Every morn and every night,
Some are born to sweet delight.
Some are born to sweet delight,
Some are born to endless night.