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26taurus
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posted March 10, 2008 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
*twilight zone music*

Well, i'm back to square one here. I could only see the post i made earlier today when i clicked on the thread (though noticed the time changed so obviously someone posted) and when I hit refresh they all disappeared and it's back to Nosis's March 07 post.

Im thinking it's a site glitch, but maybe it's my computer. Very strange.

Randall, you have mail.

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26taurus
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posted March 11, 2008 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Lexx. Why are you putting sad faces in your post? I said I wasnt upset and only asked that you not come into my threads and make corrections. It's as plain and simple as that. That should not upset you. Others may want you to do so, but I do not. If you dont understand why, I dont know what to tell you. There is no reason to be sad about anything. I rarely do lexigrams anymore and this was an old one. I was hoping that it could stay a simply a lexigram thread and not turn into what was "wrong with it".

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There are many many error filled Lexigrams here. I have only pointed out of few of the many.

That is life. People often misspell words too.

Do you think it is your duty to point these mistakes out to people? I find quite a number of "errors" in a lot of the posts on this board. But i dont run around pointing them out to everyone. I notice you dont correct people's lexigrams quite as often as you used to and for whatever reason that may be, I think it's nice of you.

Just because I dont want you coming into my threads with your corrections, doesnt mean we are not friends!!! To me anyway!

I personally find it a little annoying that no one can post a lexigram without you coming into the thread and telling them what they did wrong. It's really not a big deal, just a slight annoyance. I am not in the second grade trying to get a better grade on my report card or a gold star from my teacher.

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and recently asked Randall privately to make you a mod here too.

I used to moderate this forum and the Free Astrology Course with lalalinda until i asked Randall to demote me. So thank you for thinking of me, but I dont want the job.

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Lastly, a so called Lexigram with errors and added letters is not a true Lexigram.

Well then I am not a true Lexigrammer. Linda has her way, you have your way and i have mine.

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I was only trying to help and teach.

I am not looking for help or a teacher. I guess you didnt know that. So, may I say; thank you anyway.

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I also noticed you changed one error I pointed out..STERLIZE to the corrected STERILIZE.

That is quite interesting because I did not edit one word in that post. Maybe Randall has a way of seeing when a post was edited and by whom.

Randall?

I hope we can still be friends Lexx. I really do like you.

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26taurus
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posted March 11, 2008 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
When i make a lexigram, especially one as long as this one, it takes many hours, it's very time and mind consuming and I try very hard to create it to the best of my ability. After all that hard work, I really dont want someone to come in and tell me all the errors they see in it. To me, it's more of an art form.

Is it really out of line for me to request someone not do so?

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26taurus
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posted March 11, 2008 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
lexigram of:

~MY WAY~

MY FEET
TRAVEL ALONG THIS HIGH~WAY

MY EYES
ONE WAS BORN LAZY
HAS CORRECTED ITS~ELF

MY TYPE
INHERITED DYSLEXIA
HELPS ONE LEARN

HOW TO LIVE LIFE
BACK~WORDS

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26taurus
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posted March 12, 2008 03:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/001276-9.html

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posted March 12, 2008 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Are you trying to be funny with your latest "Lexigram"?
Its some kind of a joke right?
Well I guess I do not get the joke.
As for sad faces...
Several reasons...
Including the assumptions and untrue statements you have made about me.
Yes I still like you but this latest business has me very perplexed.

This is between you and I, so I do hope others keep their noses out of it.

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posted March 12, 2008 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
As far as your "Lexigram:
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lexigram of:

~MY WAY~

MY FEET
TRAVEL ALONG THIS HIGH~WAY

MY EYES
ONE WAS BORN LAZY
HAS CORRECTED ITS~ELF

MY TYPE
INHERITED DYSLEXIA
HELPS ONE LEARN

HOW TO LIVE LIFE
BACK~WORDS



You already know it is not one by any stretch of the imagination.
If its a joke, like I said, I do not get the joke.
As for the subject matter...
I was born dyslexic too.
I am partially blind from strokes.
I still have lazy eye.
Additionally...
Being disabled I one finger type.
Lexigrams take me more than hours, usually days or more.
I use spell checkers to compensate so I can post.
I sometimes forget how to type, speak or write...and talk well.
People tease me even here at LL about it.
They think I should see a doctor or go to bed...or worse...tell everyone I am faking for sympathy.
Well going to bed is the worse thing one can do during neuro episodes and the speech centers misfiring. I went through this as a child and was put in the retarded class(that was what they called it back then)...only later for them to discover I had one of the highest IQs in the region. Lot of good it did me with my learning disabilities and bad eyesight and stuttering etcetera.
As for what else I wish to discuss with you as to why I check Lexigrams, and not all as you say I do...yet said I do not then do then do not....
I hold back my error checking publicly more often than not. Even when I see everyone going ga ga over ones with up to dozens of serious obvious errors and hidden added letters...., whilst there are several here including myself who make every effort to do error free Lexigramming...but I rarely see the ones really good at it getting much notice...its mostly the terrible "lexigrammers" who fluff up and pad their "lexigrams" with hidden letters and words to appear all wise and or mystical who get credit. That is unfair to the several folks here who do very good Lexigramming or try very hard to do so. But good Lexigramming is rarely as exciting and flowing and lyrical as the fake Lexigrams.
As for working hard on a Lexigram.....
It is a whole lot harder and more time consuming to do them without adding words/letters, forcing them to say something not actually to be found there, then it is to just write off the cuff and hide added letters pretending to be something it is not, and saying things which are not there in reality.

I will say it again...
Cheat, add, fake it all you or anyone wants, but at least play fair and set off the added letters in brackets.

I do not feel that is asking too much.
There is nothing wrong with Lexigram based readings. I do such myself but I do not call them Lexigrams as many do including so called professionals. And I do not hide the non Lexigrammed words by putting the entire reading in caps. I come out and say it is a reading not a Lexigram and only upper case the actual Lexigram words found.

And as why else it all bugs me....
I would rather discuss it privately.
If you do not want to...I will do my best to stay clear of your "lexigrams".
Thank you.

PS. Analogize it to a diamond seller.
He has several real high quality diamonds amidst even lager numbers of very good quality fake ones.
His fake ones get noticed first because they are so much bigger and showy than the tiny real ones. The fake ones are larger and have more facets and at first glance appear to be the best and most beautiful. He sells off all the flashy big sparkling fake ones set on chains and in rings to an unsuspecting public whilst the real ones so tiny get ignored or are seen as not as nice as the showy fake diamonds set in fancy settings to further glamour folks.
Oh to be sure...the fake diamonds are quite pretty to see and touch.....but they are not the real thing even when folks are tricked into believing they are.
It boils down to ethics and honesty.

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posted March 12, 2008 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
As for the misspelled word STERLIZE being changed to STERILIZE.....
It has been also changed on Sheaa Olein's post to you too.
So someone did correct it.
It could not have been you because you cannot change her post too.
I have had such tricks played on me here by a few who wanted to trip me up.
They changed what the said they wanted Lexigrammed and only after I worked hard on the Lexigram did I discover they had pulled a fast quick change on me. Fortunately no one has pulled that stunt on me since 2006.
After that I have become even more jaded about doing Lexigrams for most people.

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posted March 12, 2008 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Hay 26T, I asked to be demoted from FFA as well so lets do a lexigram:

I Am A Demoted Moderator

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Eleanore
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posted March 12, 2008 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message
Hey gals. I'm running late for a Doc visit but just wanted to say that I hope you both feel comfortable posting lexigrams here. We all have our own ways of doing them and though I might be partial to one way it doesn't mean I think everyone else is wrong. Can't we just agree to disagree and appreciate the work we all do and share here? 26taurus, I think you have a very gifted way with words and I appreciate your input here. LEXX, I think you have a real gift for lexigrams and I appreciate your input, too. Does it bother me when you correct my posts? Nope. I'm glad to fix erros that I made and we also tend to have a similar view about lexigrams. But not everyone feels the same way and I want us all to feel comfortable here. Some people might feel uncomfortable with having their errors pointed out, especially when they weren't expecting it. Others might not. I think as long as we can trust that the other person isn't trying to be mean with their input or preferences, and accept that, then I think we'll be just dandy.

Tumbling off my please-don't-anyone-get-upset cloud now.

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posted March 12, 2008 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Eleanore
I do not care if folks add letters. All I am saying is to please be fair and set off the added letters in brackets as even Linda said to do.
I do not think my request is unfair.

Hiding them is not fair to the few who rarely have errors and to ones like you who want to know so they can either fix the errors or to at least have the ethics and honesty to set them off in brackets and call it a Lexigram Based Reading instead of a Lexigram.

It is unfair to the few who do endeavour to create true Lexigrams to be lumped into the same pot as the folks doing the flashy padded showy lyrical Lexigram Based Readings. Nothing wrong with doing those, they are EASY TO DO (compared to true Lexigramming) AND FUN...... but HIDING the added bits is just plain dishonest.

True Lexigramming takes alot more work and time than the simple Lexigram Based Reading does.
And yes some folks are good with words, but while they may be creating very interesting Lexigram Based Readings, they are not Lexigram Masters, nor trying to be. It is the ones pretending to be Lexigram Masters who HIDE the added words and letters who I am upset with.
I have seen very nice true Lexigrams from many folks, overlooked, or nearly so, because they are not padded liberally with added words and letters and acronyms and abbreviations like the fake Lexigrams with the added stuff HIDDEN.
There are indeed more than a few shoddy Lexigrammers out there actually charging $$$ for error ridden fake Lexigrams.
As here, my beef is the HIDING of the added not allowed words and letters and calling it a Lexigram when it is not.
I have been spammed by too many people and also I suspect but cannot prove it...by possibly certain ones who either work for or are those so called professionals using fake identities to be trolls at various sites. I have a fairly good idea too as to who they all are, as their various "styles" are quite obvious.
My way of pure lexigramming seems to gall those who want to show off and intentionally HIDE their added letters, and those who have money making scams of pretending to be Lexigrammers when they are not.

ALL I ASK IS DO NOT HIDE YOUR ADDED LETTERS AND WORDS PLEASE!

I do not feel my request is unfair.

And by all means, if anyone should find any errors in my Lexigrams..kindly point them out to me please!
BTW...TO ANYONE WHO HAS NOT FIGURED IT OUT BY NOW, I AM VERY SERIOUS ABOUT LEXIGRAMMING!
And I can back up my way with examples.


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posted March 12, 2008 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
One more rant for tonight.
I hope 26taurus was trying to be funny because she certainly can see that her so called Lexigram of

"My Way"
A M W YY

is NOT even close to a Lexigram by any stretch of the imagination!

Added HIDDEN letters being:
Any but A M W YY


It was a joke right???????

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lexigram of:

~MY WAY~

MY FEET
TRAVEL ALONG THIS HIGH~WAY

MY EYES
ONE WAS BORN LAZY
HAS CORRECTED ITS~ELF

MY TYPE
INHERITED DYSLEXIA
HELPS ONE LEARN

HOW TO LIVE LIFE
BACK~WORDS



Additionally I would think a topic such as “Self Realization”Would welcome the chance to correct errors or set off added accidental hidden letters etcetera.Unless the hiding was intentional, there should not be any embarrassment or sense of having been caught intentionally cheating by HIDING the added bits.

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26taurus
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posted March 12, 2008 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
I cannot see the new posts again (or most of the old ones). I know there should be two pages here and I can now only see one. This is happening in two other threads now.

Be patient.

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posted March 13, 2008 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message
I understand your perspective, LEXX. I really do, especially as I also wish people would set off their added letters with (). Not everyone catches every mistake, though. I'm a good example of that. Still, we can't really force people to do things "our" way no matter how right we may think we are ... or even if we actually are. It's like with numerology or astrology. There are so many different systems out there and we all have our preferences. Sure, I think X or Y system is inaccurate but if someone else prefers it, what can I say? I know how I would feel if someone told me I was wrong even though I felt I was right. Maybe I wouldn't be angry but I would probably feel a little annoyed by it. I don't know anyone who really likes criticism, even if it's constructive, but especially when it's seemingly out of the blue.

So, no, I don't think your request for folks to offset added letters with () is unfair. It's just that we can't obligate anyone to do what we'd like them to do. I mean, you and I don't agree on every aspect of lexigrams as your method is not always in agreement with Linda's method. But I wouldn't want to offend you by showing you how "right" Linda was and how "wrong" you must then be ... because in the end it comes down to preferences. I can't prove that either of you are 100% wrong or right, you know? In fact, keeping an open mind about your way of doing them has helped me learn more about lexigrams and I'm very thankful for that.

Likewise, I don't think it's unfair for 26t to request that you leave her work alone. That's one of the reasons I don't check lexigrams for (what I consider) errors so much. I might not mean anything by it but I can appreciate that someone else might find it rude or unnecessary.

I just don't want to see anyone get upset over whose way is "right" or "better" than anyone else's. I also don't want to scare people away from the forum because we insist that "our" way is the only way to go about doing lexigrams. We can all learn from each other just by sharing our methods and work, imo. I hope so much that I haven't offended either of you. I really appreciate you both contributing your work here and I hope we can all tolerate our differences and try to see the best in each other no matter which method we employ.

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posted March 13, 2008 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Eleanore
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I understand your perspective, LEXX. I really do, especially as I also wish people would set off their added letters with ()
Thank you Eleanore! THAT is actually the main thing I am asking folks to please do.
On another note...
It seems my passion for Lexigramming has caused folks to think I am attacking them and or Linda's way. Yes I can see how it appears as that. However that was never my intention. I shall try to explain further after I reply to your post.
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Not everyone catches every mistake, though. I'm a good example of that.
True, but you as I welcome the opportunity to set off added letters, correct spelling and or fix errors. It is the folks who know damn well they ARE INTENTIONALLY HIDING THE ADDED LETTERS instead of setting them off in brackets who annoy me. The added letters are often beyond obvious, and tells me they just write off the cuff and all in upper case and never bother to check their work over...or are doing it intentionally.
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Still, we can't really force people to do things "our" way no matter how right we may think we are ... or even if we actually are.
True. However I do get quite tired of being told I am wrong and insulted to boot and even spammed, by people who never bother to take the time to see that I CAN BACK UP WHAT I SAY, and am not some brainless idiot and nor am I attacking them or Linda.
More on that later.
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It's like with numerology or astrology. There are so many different systems out there and we all have our preferences. Sure, I think X or Y system is inaccurate but if someone else prefers it, what can I say? I know how I would feel if someone told me I was wrong even though I felt I was right.
Again, Linda's way has merit. I do not have a problem with folks doing them her way. What I do not like is those who then tell me I have no right to be here unless I adhere to Linda's way which is not the last definitive word on Lexigramming.
So I am right in that aspect. And I can back up my counter comments on Linda's way being shortsighted. Such as Lexigramming only works in English. Not true. Such as some names etcetera cannot be Lexigrammed. Not true. Such as names, phrase, dates with all the vowels and more than 15 different letters cannot be done, or you will get most every word...Definitely not true. I CAN PROVE IT ALL BY EXAMPLE.
So in a nutshell there...
I do not appreciate being preached at, attacked by, ridiculed by folks who worship Linda and her way. I DO NOT CARE IF THEY WANT TO ADHERE TO HER RULES... but I do tend to get upset when they show me and my way NO RESPECT, when I HAVE GIVEN PROOF that my way is valid and logical and very accurate. That frustration forces me into defensive mode and makes it appear that I am attacking Linda's way and those who follow it. Why is truth with proof seen as an attack?
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Maybe I wouldn't be angry but I would probably feel a little annoyed by it. I don't know anyone who really likes criticism, even if it's constructive, but especially when it's seemingly out of the blue.
I would love being told if anyone finds any errors in my Lexigram! In fact recently someone did and I thanked them greatly! I had misspelled the word clarity.
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So, no, I don't think your request for folks to offset added letters with () is unfair. It's just that we can't obligate anyone to do what we'd like them to do.
Thank you again. And true we cannot make anyone do what we ask. In time hopefully they will swallow their pride and be ethical and honest and set off their added letters in () or [].
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I mean, you and I don't agree on every aspect of lexigrams as your method is not always in agreement with Linda's method.
No my way is not in complete agreement and I have given very logical proof and examples to back up my reasons.
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But I wouldn't want to offend you by showing you how "right" Linda was and how "wrong" you must then be ... because in the end it comes down to preferences.
If you or anyone CAN logically back up Linda' way being right in ALL or even SOME aspects, I am willing to listen and not become offended. However acknowledging that I do know what I am doing and can back up my statements is also appreciated.
Additionally the only so called preferences I can see at this time is an unwillingness to look at Lexigramming logically, relying on so called word druids, which takes it off more into a religion with illogical rules and Anglocetric thinking. As with any religion, preference and belief is not fact nor proof that something is right or wrong or accurate or logical. So yeah, I am willing to hear anyone out on why all Linda's way is the best and only way. But they better be able to show proof not simply re quote and re quote yadda yadda yadda the popular party lines.
Folks can believe how they wish, but to go at me when I can indeed prove my points is very inconsiderate and narrow minded and closed to new ways. I think it is the fact that I do give proof of my way that offends certain folks. If I can prove and they cannot...well then I am right by that token. It probably hurts them to realize that Linda, dear Lady that she was...did not have the last nor most accurate lasting and definitive words on Lexigramming.
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I can't prove that either of you are 100% wrong or right, you know?

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posted March 13, 2008 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
As I said above, a discussion with proof of statements and examples would be welcome.
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In fact, keeping an open mind about your way of doing them has helped me learn more about lexigrams and I'm very thankful for that.
Thank you for having an open mind!
I am more than willing to try to help and teach and yes try to fix errors for folks.
Just please do not throw Linda's way up in my face, nor anyone else's way, unless it can be backed up with solid proof and solid examples, not mere opinion or re-quoting the party line again and again stubbornly.
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Likewise, I don't think it's unfair for 26t to request that you leave her work alone. That's one of the reasons I don't check lexigrams for (what I consider) errors so much. I might not mean anything by it but I can appreciate that someone else might find it rude or unnecessary.
I sincerely thought she would appreciate it. And blame my logical mind on the matter, but I do have trouble comprehending why anyone would reject the chance to fix errors or set the added bits off correctly, unless they do intentionally want to hide the added bits to appear better at Lexigramming than they are.
I can and do respect those who are honest and do not hide the added bits. Absolutely nothing wrong with LBRs! However sneaking intentionally I cannot respect. As to the accidental errors, when folks know there is a way to have them checked, and my willingness to help them fix the errors, as I have shown I can help them to do, on many threads, where my help was appreciated...well I do not understand why anyone would not want to know if theirs needs fixing. Unless again, they want to hide the added bits and errors to show off pretending they are great Lexigrammers. Be great at LBRs if not Lexigramming! There is absolutely nothing wrong with being really good at doing LBRs!!!!! SIMPLY DO NOT HIDE THE ADDED BITS!
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I just don't want to see anyone get upset over whose way is "right" or "better" than anyone else's. I also don't want to scare people away from the forum because we insist that "our" way is the only way to go about doing lexigrams. We can all learn from each other just by sharing our methods and work, imo.
I will respect ways not my own but appreciate respect for mine instead of being told I am a Linda hater etcetera when I present my way...with proof to back my claims up.

again..IT IS THE HIDING OF ADDED WORDS AND LETTERS I am most concerned with.

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I hope so much that I haven't offended either of you.
No you have not offended me one iota!
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I really appreciate you both contributing your work here and I hope we can all tolerate our differences and try to see the best in each other no matter which method we employ.
Again it is not the method, it is the HIDING OF ADDED LETTERS AND WORDS etecera I am annoyed over. Not the method. Folks can do them by whatever way they choose...so unless I am preached at that my way is not valid even when I can prove my way is logical and valid, I will try to stay calm and not preach back.
And when I am saying something contrary to Linda's way, please do not take it as disrespect for Linda. I can give proof. Sorry if that looks like an attack on Linda or on folks who religiously adhere to her way is the only way. Where would we be now if the old beliefs were still in play, "that the sun revolves around the Earth? That the Earth is flat? In those days it made sense to them. But since then we know it to be wrong. Just because I can counter some of Linda's rules does not mean I disrespect her way. I have simply studied the subject in far more depth, and longer than she did. She did not write a Lexigramming book, it was a chapter only. And even she had many errors in her Lexigrams. I am still at a loss to understand why her editors and publishers left so many errors in her book.
Rant over.
Busy at this time so I don't know when I shall return.
I would rather just Lexigram than argue and fight. Discussion is great however.
PS. I know I have typos today, will fix later.

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juniperb
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posted March 13, 2008 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Lovely common sense Eleanore

Until there is an accepted standard across the board for lexigrams, everyone is right. Like it or not, with added letters and so forth, we only have a "rule of thumb" to work with. Be it Linda`s or your own personal standard; use it, enjoy it and live life with compassion,forgiveness, love and JOY.

That`s the key to working together here in LL.

There`s room for everybody here

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posted March 13, 2008 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Would really love to know what's going on in here!!!

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posted March 13, 2008 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
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Until there is an accepted standard across the board for lexigrams, everyone is right. Like it or not, with added letters and so forth, we only have a "rule of thumb" to work with. Be it Linda`s or your own personal standard; use it, enjoy it and live life with compassion,forgiveness, love and JOY.

That`s the key to working together here in LL.

There`s room for everybody here



Well maybe a rule of thumb or standard needs set here.

I do agree with Linda Goodman and so do many others;
that ADDED LETTERS SHOULD BE SET OFF THUSLY:
( ) or [ ]....or LEFT IN lower CASE!

Better yet...
Personally I feel that the simplest way would
be to forget the setting off in ( ) or [ ]...
and put any word not allowed, even if they have some of the allowed letters,
would be to leave them all in lower case because they do not actually belong in the Lexigram anyhow. Then call it an LBR instead.
Setting the added words with the not allowed letters off in lower case makes for smoother reading and lets the readers see at a glance the actual LEXIGRAMMED words which carry the most weight and meaning, from the added words used make it read easier, or to pad or flesh out or even force it to say things not actually there.
I apologize for using 267aurus' "lexigram" as an example, but it does illustrate clearly what I am pointing out.
The below is NOT A LEXIGRAM BY ANY WIDE STRETCH OF ANYONE'S IMAGINATION!

A M W YY
CANNOT CREATE THE FOLLOWING.

quote:
lexigram of:

~MY WAY~

MY FEET
TRAVEL ALONG THIS HIGH~WAY

MY EYES
ONE WAS BORN LAZY
HAS CORRECTED ITS~ELF

MY TYPE
INHERITED DYSLEXIA
HELPS ONE LEARN

HOW TO LIVE LIFE
BACK~WORDS


I assume that "lexigram" was meant as a joke. But I have no way of knowing for sure unless told otherwise.

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posted March 15, 2008 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
(gonna have to break this post up into multiple posts)

Hi LEXX.

A friend of mine sent me the second page to this thread because I still cannot see it. It's interesting to see what this thread has turned into.

I dont really have the energy to reply after reading all of that, but think I should address a couple of things for you, and then hopefully you can really let this go. I will refrain from trying to lighten the mood by cracking jokes here or by being playfully sarcastic, for your sake only.

*sigh* Here goes:

First and foremost; what you dont seem to be understanding is that me, not wanting you to point out my errors has absolutely nothing to do with me not wanting people to see them or me not being able to handle having them pointed out to me. It has nothing to do with me trying to pull the wool over people's eyes and look like some kind of Master Lexigrammer. Okay? Let's get that straight.

Lexigramming words is not my life's work. Doing them is not as important to me as it is to you, obviously.

I find it rude that you havent been asking people if they wanted their errors pointed out first. Honestly, if you first asked me if i wanted any errors in that lexigram pointed out, i wouldve said "sure, Lexx". Because I know it wouldve made your day and not effected me in anyway at all. In case you havent noticed yet, your ego is very invested in this lexigramming thing.

Like I said before; I didnt ask for you to teach me anything and I feel, in most cases generally speaking, it's respectful to the other person to wait until they ask before you try teaching them anything. Or even better, teach by example.

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posted March 15, 2008 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
"Cheat, add, fake it all you or anyone wants, but at least play fair and set off the added letters in brackets."

"I do not care if folks add letters. All I am saying is to please be fair and set off the added letters in brackets as even Linda said to do."

"AND FUN...... but HIDING the added bits is just plain dishonest."

"It is the ones pretending to be Lexigram Masters who HIDE the added words and letters who I am upset with."

"my beef is the HIDING of the added not allowed words and letters and calling it a Lexigram when it is not."

"My way of pure lexigramming seems to gall those who want to show off and intentionally HIDE their added letters, and those who have money making scams of pretending to be Lexigrammers when they are not.
ALL I ASK IS DO NOT HIDE YOUR ADDED LETTERS AND WORDS PLEASE!"

"there should not be any embarrassment or sense of having been caught intentionally cheating by HIDING the added bits."

"It is the folks who know damn well they ARE INTENTIONALLY HIDING THE ADDED LETTERS instead of setting them off in brackets who annoy me. "

"In time hopefully they will swallow their pride and be ethical and honest and set off their added letters in () or []."

"but I do have trouble comprehending why anyone would reject the chance to fix errors or set the added bits off correctly, unless they do intentionally want to hide the added bits to appear better at Lexigramming than they are."

"I can and do respect those who are honest and do not hide the added bits."

"Unless again, they want to hide the added bits and errors to show off pretending they are great Lexigrammers."

"There is absolutely nothing wrong with being really good at doing LBRs!!!!! SIMPLY DO NOT HIDE THE ADDED BITS! "

"again..IT IS THE HIDING OF ADDED WORDS AND LETTERS I am most concerned with."

"Again it is not the method, it is the HIDING OF ADDED LETTERS AND WORDS etecera I am annoyed over."

"I do agree with Linda Goodman and so do many others;
that ADDED LETTERS SHOULD BE SET OFF THUSLY:
( ) or [ ]....or LEFT IN lower CASE!"


Two things. Real quick.

Have you lost your mind, lady???

And

Are you done yet?

What are you doing? Trying to drill it into people's heads or shout from the rooftop
that someone has been trying con them into thinking they are a Master Lexigrammer when apparently you are the only one? that someone is trying to be sneaky by hiding "their added bits".

You know? you almost had me believing I was wearing a blouse that had come unbuttoned unbeknownst to me. And that you were the only one that could see that my t*ts where hanging out. I was wondering what that breeze was....

Oh, it was only you.

*joke alert!*
sorry, i tried not to.

*dodges tomatoes......bullets...*

The fact that you are unleashing this on me and in my thread,
someone who hasnt lexigrammed anything in ages,
makes me wonder if there is really something else behind all this BS.

Are you feeling alright lately, LEXX? I'm being serious now. You have me slightly freaked out in this thread. Which brings me to my next point.

You kindly posted the errors you found in my lexigram.

I skimmed through that post. I did not read it intently.
and didnt bother changing anything or even going back to re-read the Lexigram. And I still havent.

What letters would you like me to bracket off again? What was I being sneaky about? What bits did i add in to make myself look like a hot-shot??? I guess I could go check your post and see.

Christ, lady! Give me a break. Just because your world revolves around this doesnt mean everyone else's does. Take a chill pill. Arent there more important things to b*itch about, to tear apart, and not be friends with someone over?

Are you catching my drift yet?

We are clearly on different pages here and it's a little frustrating. You are turning this into something it should not be. Something that couldve and shouldve been let go of many posts ago.

cont....

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posted March 15, 2008 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Now

About the lexigram: MY WAY

You seem overly-perplexed and have asked several times:

quote:
Are you trying to be funny with your latest "Lexigram"?
Its some kind of a joke right?

So let's get really "real" for a minute or two.

You asking me those questions was some kind of joke, right? I'm not sure, because clearly, we do not have the same sense of humor.

Please tell me those questions are some kind joke LEXX. Did you really just ask me that a number of times, or were you joking around? Are you honestly taking more than one moment to wonder if that lexigram was a joke or not? You are really bugging me out now lady.

Knock it off LEXX. You are smarter than that. You have "one of the highest IQs in the region." You stated that in your post above. I have also observed your sense of humor. So let's cut the sh*t now.

quote:
If its a joke, like I said, I do not get the joke.

Yes you do. You arent stupid and neither am i.

I know I make mistakes in lexigrams, LEXX but obviously that one went over the top. It's called having fun. Making light of a situation. And I know you know what i was doing. Instead you want to play dumb. Fine by me. Talk about a "faker".


I'm going to skip over some other things i could point out because
if you dont get me when i'm joking around, and take offence to that, then you wont like anything else I might have to say when I'm being serious and not trying to be mean about anything, just being detatched and honest.

I'd love to address every single sentence in your posts but I've already spent too much time on this. I hope we can agree to disagree and your feelings towards me wont be too hardened. If you decide to quote me on everything and reply I probably wont answer as I've said all I can, the best way I know how. I'm just hoping now it will get through to you. There's really not much more that needs to be said. We know where we stand and I can agree to disagree with you, if that's what we should call what we are doing....

I still think you are swell, LEXX. Just gotta say my piece here.

Find the love in it or leave it.

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posted March 15, 2008 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
an added bit here:

quote:
Additionally I would think a topic such as “Self Realization”Would welcome the chance to correct errors or set off added accidental hidden letters etcetera.Unless the hiding was intentional, there should not be any embarrassment or sense of having been caught intentionally cheating by HIDING the added bits.


Again, just so we are clear; it has nothing to do with me being embarrased about some "mistakes". Though it may be convienient for you to proclaim so.

Yes, on the topic of self realization. Let's realize a couple of things about ourselves here. One: you did not "catch" me "hiding" or "cheating" on anything. Two: I've realized a lot from this discussion with you.


One thing I have realized in my personal self-realization process is that no one is right & no one is wrong.

"and those who have money making scams of pretending to be Lexigrammers when they are not."
-LEXX

Dont worry about me, LEXX. I dont intend to make money off of lexigrams. I'm not proffessional.

Do you feel threatened by the professional competition that is out there right now?

And btw, I am not "pretending" to be anything,
especially not a Lexxigrammer.

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posted March 15, 2008 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
I hope you feel better now.{{{Hugs}}}
And no, seriously I did not get the joke...
On that note it is me not you perhaps.
I never get jokes easily.
Been like that all my life to date.
Sorry.
Nor do I truly understand completely why you are so upset.
If I had asked first you would not be??????
Huh?
I will not bother you or say anything more about Lexigramming to you. I think that is what you want...?????? Am I wrong?
I still think my request is fair and valid.
And the crap I have had to deal with behind the scenes concerning my Lexigramming has been awful. You really have no idea.
I have just had enough already.
So yeah, I have become rather touchy about my passion for Lexigramming.
I do not feel I deserve such words from you.
quote:
And I know you know what i was doing. Instead you want to play dumb. Fine by me. Talk about a "faker".
How kind. Call me a faker. Seem par for the course too often. I am not "playing" dumb. In the humour arena I am nearly clueless. You do not know me as you assume much. Then insult me. You believe me to be a faker. I doubt if anything I say will change that.
And BTW, I am not playing dumb. I really am a total social idiot when it comes to recognizing a joke with ease.
A psychiatrist I went to years back trying to fix that problem told me I was kinda like an idiot savant or absent minded professor who does not know how to tie their shoes or spell short words, or boil an egg...but over compensates in other areas. And what should one expect out of someone like me who has read dictionaries for pleasure for almost 4 decades to date, but since that damn ocular stroke in August, and mini stroke last March,
And possible another in October too... I cannot even do that with ease anymore. Nor can I Lexigram as fast or as easy now. Brain farts abound. I must be passionate about them. I must keep doing them to repair my brain glitches. My eyesight damage is not fixable.
It is still fun for me but has become mind saving/repairing therapy too since.
So yeah, at this time one could say Lexigramming is more than mere passion/obsession for me.
It is something I can even do on my bedridden times.
On that other note, concerning joking.
I sincerely don't get teasing etcetera.
I try but fail usually.
Sigh

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posted March 15, 2008 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
Have you lost your mind, lady???
Yeah, some parts of it unfortunately.
And that is not a joke BTW.
quote:
Lexigramming words is not my life's work.
Doing them is not as important to me as it is to you, obviously.

It is beyond important and necessary for me.
quote:
Are you feeling alright lately, LEXX? I'm being serious now.

No I am not.
I need some more brain scans and more MRIs. Yippie.
And please do not pity me. I hate that!
I wanted to talk this out by e-mail But oh well.
quote:
You kindly posted the errors you found in my lexigram

I was honestly being kind in my opinion. I was not feeling anything but wanting to be helpful.
Your reaction took me by complete surprise. Seriously it did.
quote:
Please tell me those questions are some kind joke LEXX. Did you really just ask
me that a number of times, or were you joking around? Are you honestly taking more than
one moment to wonder if that lexigram was a joke or not? You are really bugging me out
now lady.
I am beginning to feel beyond stupid here. Until you tell me it is a joke
how do I really know? Was it what is known as a visual form of written sarcasm
and not an actual joke?
quote:
You arent stupid and neither am i.

No neither of us is stupid. But I am an idiot in this concern. Been that way all my life to date.Sorry.
Is this what you were doing?
joke (jk)
n.
2. A mischievous trick; a prank.
Think of me like DATA on STTNG. I can grasp it from a dictionary perspective but not in practice usually unless told that is what it is. If I assume or guess I could be right or wrong.

Additionally, any joking or humour you think you have seen from me, has been more than often "coached" or given a heads up from behind the scenes that I am doing it correctly. It is not a thing I can naturally comprehend off the cuff.

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