posted March 15, 2008 01:54 AM         

You both brought up many points I wanted to make and said things better than, and a whole lot nicer than, I could have.

Thank you both for taking the time and for sharing your insight.

posted March 15, 2008 01:57 AM         

my junk mailbox addy is:
*deleted by Eleanore as per 26t's request*

posted March 15, 2008 08:51 AM         

TO SOFTEN IS TO SILENT NOISE IN ONESELF
TO FREE FEARS - LIES
LISTEN TO SILENT SAINT-SELF
& RISE ON STAIRS
TO ETERNAL LIFE

If I didn`t tell you how lovely that was before, I`m telling you now.

When your lexigrams spiral to this depth of Spirituality, no one should mind an errant letter or two. It is the that is of importance.

and I you

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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~

posted March 15, 2008 02:37 PM         

I just wanted to stop in and tell you that I always admire your uniqueness in Lexigramming; I also always appreciate you correcting my errors; I think it's important, sometimes we may think we have them all correct, only to discover that we do not... a fresh eye is always welcomed.
I know you respect Linda's way and you simply have a different approach, which I think is great. I think many just don't understand your passion is all. Keep your head up, my friend

I'm sure that Linda would've listened to other's ways of lexigramming without becoming defensive; she seemed very open-minded

Silverstone

posted March 15, 2008 02:57 PM         

It is the uniquenees of every individual that brings their gifts to LL that enrichess us all.

Each has a unique gift and we are blessed by everyone`s involvement! That`s the diversity and richness that makes LL unique

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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~

posted March 15, 2008 03:32 PM         

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I hope you feel better now.{{{Hugs}}}

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I never felt bad LEXX. I view this situation a lot differently than you do. The real question is; after all of that; do you feel better now?

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I never get jokes easily.
Been like that all my life to date.
Sorry.
Nor do I truly understand completely why you are so upset.

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If you say so, LEXX.

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I am not "upset". Not sure how to get that through to you. I guess you couldnt tell from my post above that this has nothing to do with me being upset. Especially not me being upset about you pointing out "errors". You are missing the point entirely.

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And the crap I have had to deal with behind the scenes concerning my Lexigramming has been awful. You really have no idea.

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No, I dont because I dont look at life from a victim standpoint. I dont see situations, negativity and people as if they are coming at me and I have nothing to do with it and am helpless. I think one's outer world is a reflection of their inner world. That everything 'happening to us' is a gift for us to take an opportunity to go within.

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I have just had enough already.

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Have you really? We are still here arent we?
I will keep coming back as long as I feel there is positivity to be had from this.

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So yeah, I have become rather touchy about my passion for Lexigramming.
I do not feel I deserve such words from you.

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Again fayte, I hear victim mentality here.

Maybe I didnt deserve all of these words from you:

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"Cheat, add, fake it all you or anyone wants, but at least play fair and set off the added letters in brackets."
"I do not care if folks add letters. All I am saying is to please be fair and set off the added letters in brackets as even Linda said to do."

"AND FUN...... but HIDING the added bits is just plain dishonest."

"It is the ones pretending to be Lexigram Masters who HIDE the added words and letters who I am upset with."

"my beef is the HIDING of the added not allowed words and letters and calling it a Lexigram when it is not."

"My way of pure lexigramming seems to gall those who want to show off and intentionally HIDE their added letters, and those who have money making scams of pretending to be Lexigrammers when they are not.
ALL I ASK IS DO NOT HIDE YOUR ADDED LETTERS AND WORDS PLEASE!"

"there should not be any embarrassment or sense of having been caught intentionally cheating by HIDING the added bits."

"It is the folks who know damn well they ARE INTENTIONALLY HIDING THE ADDED LETTERS instead of setting them off in brackets who annoy me. "

"In time hopefully they will swallow their pride and be ethical and honest and set off their added letters in () or []."

"but I do have trouble comprehending why anyone would reject the chance to fix errors or set the added bits off correctly, unless they do intentionally want to hide the added bits to appear better at Lexigramming than they are."

"I can and do respect those who are honest and do not hide the added bits."

"Unless again, they want to hide the added bits and errors to show off pretending they are great Lexigrammers."

"There is absolutely nothing wrong with being really good at doing LBRs!!!!! SIMPLY DO NOT HIDE THE ADDED BITS! "

"again..IT IS THE HIDING OF ADDED WORDS AND LETTERS I am most concerned with."

"Again it is not the method, it is the HIDING OF ADDED LETTERS AND WORDS etecera I am annoyed over."

"I do agree with Linda Goodman and so do many others;
that ADDED LETTERS SHOULD BE SET OFF THUSLY:
( ) or [ ]....or LEFT IN lower CASE!"

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Granted, they werent all directed at me personally. But worded in such a way that might make me want to think so.

Dont dish out what you cant take. Dont try and guilt trip me either. By telling me about all of these mental and health problems. It's not working on me. I've seen it all before.

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How kind. Call me a faker.

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You started it, LEXX. Go read those quotes above again. I'm only turning the tables on you.

What you are saying about others, is speaking volumes about you.

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You do not know me as you assume much. Then insult me.

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Do you realize that that is exactly what you did to me? Assumed I was "hiding" letters, being "sneaky" and pretending to be something I am not. Then loosely insulted me and other people in the process.

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I need some more brain scans and more MRIs. Yippie.
And please do not pity me. I hate that!

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Dont worry, I dont.

For the most part, my outlook on life doesnt involve pitying people. That just doesnt fit in with my way of seeing things. When I am able to see things clearly, pity for others just does not fit into the picture.

Much of what youve said about having comprehension problems and not being able to get things without coaching from someone else, seriously contradicts the things youve said about yourself in other posts in this thread and in other threads in the past.

I'm sorry you dont get jokes easily. That must make life even harder to deal with.

I know, if i didnt have my sense of humor, i never wouldve made it this far.

A sense of humor is something that can develop naturally by not sweating the small stuff and finding the love and beauty in life and all things in it.

posted March 15, 2008 03:37 PM         

Well said as usual.

Thank you.

posted March 15, 2008 03:48 PM         

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I think many just don't understand your passion is all.

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I know the feeling!!!

Are you sure what it is is called "passion" though?

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I'm sure that Linda would've listened to other's ways of lexigramming without becoming defensive; she seemed very open-minded

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I agree. It really would be nice to hear her opinion here.

Knowing her though, I'm not quite so sure she wouldve taken completely kindly to LEXX's way of pointing out her errors.

You know that Arien temper she had
that we all so often affectionately refer to?

Yeah.

It's cute when Linda lost it, but when other's do
(even when in reality arent actually angry about something)
it's called defensiveness and close-mindedness....very unevolved.

posted March 15, 2008 05:23 PM         

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Granted, they werent all directed at me personally. But worded in such a way that might make me want to think so.

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You started it, LEXX. Go read those quotes above again. I'm only turning the tables on you.

What you are saying about others, is speaking volumes about you.

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posted March 15, 2008 11:31 PM         

You made 9, count 'em, nine, very long winded posts before I could even see what was going on in this thread. Who is not letting this go?

Most of what you posted was repetition about how you think lexigrams should be done and how for the most part, others make far too many mistakes and are fakers.

All you really needed to do was simply tell me you would back off from me and carry on your way. That is all I needed from you, LEXX. I thought I made a nice but firm post requesting that and that it could end after that.

All you had to say was okay and goodbye. But you chose a differemt route and I'm going along with it by replying to your comments now. I'm not looking to drag anything out. This has probably drained me more than it has you.

Maybe you couldve started a thread about why you think people should bracket off letters in their lexigrams. Why did you have to post it all in this thread and word it the way you did, if it wasnt supposed to be directed at me? You expect me not to believe that at least some of that was not? At least partially anyway? Come on LEXX. Dont try to say that none of what you stated in those posts was directed at me. I was one of the culprits in not bracketing off letters, remember?

I'm happy I have had such a great sense of humor through all this and dont take offence easily. What you percieve as me being highly offended is really only me not backing down from an issue I think needs to be addressed, for once. I'm going with this flow quite nicely and just wish we could settle it and be friends again.

In so many ways it has been a great exercise for me and I thank you for the challenge.

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My requests to set off added letters were valid and rational.

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No one said they were not valid or rational, LEXX! But what makes you think you have any right to tell people how they should be doing their lexigrams in the tone that you do? Okay, great! You want them done this way and think they are faking cheaters if they dont. Not giving them the benefit of the doubt that they may have simply made some innocent mistakes.

Well sorry, but people do not have to abide by the rules you have made up.

I also dont really have the right to ask someone not to correct my lexigrams if i post them on a public forum. Some might say I do have that right. I dont know. One thing is for sure, i wont post any more here.

Wouldnt it be more productive to focus more on your business endeavor than the mistakes other people make?

Dont mind them and they wont matter. They are going to happen no matter what you try and do about it. New Knowflakes will come along and not know your rules yet. It will never end for you.

Should the mistakes other people make matter so much to you? Why? Are they hurting you by making mistakes or upsetting you by not conforming to the way you want lexigrams done? Should you let your own inner peace be so disturbed because of something like that?

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You took things personally. It was not meant to be personal to you. But something about it must ring true or you would not be upset. I admit I am upset. You post and post and claim to not be upset. Uh huh.

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Okay, LEXX. Again, I'm not upset. I was a little fired up in a good way! I love a good debate. Mars in the 7th house.

Also, I'm positive that I am not only speaking for myself when I have said what I have here. That is why I am continuing on with this. It's not all about me and that fact that you pointed out some errors in one of my lexigrams.

posted March 15, 2008 11:32 PM         

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In a nutshell all I really wanted was to see folks set off their added words thusly:
( ) [ ].

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We know you did LEXX, we know you did.

Let's pause for a moment and reflect on the strong possibility that unfortunately for you, that just may not happen. What will you do about that?

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I said I would not point out your errors again.

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And may I say Thank you LEXX! That's all I asked. This couldve been a lot less winded on the both of our parts had that request really been respected and seen in the correct light!

If I ever decide to post a lexigram again and you find errors in it, by all means, ask me if i would like them pointed out! You will not offend me by do so.

This has escalated into what it has NOT because you told me you would no longer point out my errors and I just didnt take that as your answer. It's because you continued on and on with the whys and hows and annoyances you find in the way others lexigram. You did it in my thread. I have to feel that some of it was directed at me and that it deserves a response or two ...or three, four or five!

Sorry dear, but if you simply felt like you could let this all go and have been trying to, you would have done so quite a few post ago. Maybe you couldve tried one post after the one in which i requested that little something of you.

Dont pretend that you tried to let this go and I have been dragging you back here. I couldnt even see the posts here for awhile and on you went. Not even really hearing what Eleanore or anyone else had to say. Otherwise you wouldnt have had to have kept repeating yourself.

I really thought that after my initial post/request you wouldve said something like; "Okay 26t, i will not correct your lexigrams without asking if my corrections are welcome first. Have a nice day."

Now, another thread has been mucked up with "LEXX's WAY".

Of course, I had a feeling you might take it the way you did and misconstrue my intentions. Act hurt, confused and appalled. But I thought maybe it wouldnt have to turn out that way and you could respect my wishes and move right along.

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And when I said I'd had enough already I did not mean LL.

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I didnt think you did. I thought you meant either here in this thread and/or with the people outside of here that have been attacking you.

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I feel you may see me as an unreasonable person, you have made it rather clear

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Yes, that's true. Unreasonable and stubborn. Yep.
That's okay though, what's so wrong with that?! I still like you anyway!
Ive been known to be that way too.

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If my request offends, then the ones offended should ask themselves why my valid fair request offends them so deeply. Such offense is illogical.

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Yes, they should. *whispers* Who are they?

I for one am not "deeply offended".
Initially, I was slightly annoyed, like I said. And spoke up about it and am over it now. What I am doing here is replying to your responses.

Could it be that somehow you are deeply offended that people wont open right up and really listen to your way of going about lexigramming?

Yes, this could seemingly go on forever. I get the feeling it's losing steam though. And I'm quite happy about that. Unfortunately, I think it's a little sad that you look at me differently now. I guess we werent really that great of internet friends. That is okay. I can accept that you will avoid me now and dont really want to accept the truce offering I made in round about ways in other posts.

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Truce is all that can be achieved here.
So truce or not?

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LEXX, that is what I wanted and was trying to make happen a few posts ago.

So yes, Truce.

posted March 15, 2008 11:53 PM         

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Aries women may have tempers, but they are usually very rational and willing to look at things in different ways.

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You do realize you could change the Aries to Taurus and the sentence would still hold truth, right?

You could even change it to Leo or Scorpio. Astrologically speaking, all of these signs are known for having what people like to label as tempers.

posted March 16, 2008 01:23 AM         

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And 26t, you do, in fact, seem to be losing your temper (evidenced by the expletives).

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Dont let expletives fool you Randall.

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You speak of "your thread" as if you had some sort of exclusive right here.

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I do? Where?

Where do I speak of an exclusive right? From what I can see, I simply and nicely requested someting of someone. Who has not quite accepted it right away. And we are working that out. Not a big deal! I'm not freaking out telling people it's my thread and stay out! I'm saying ask me if I want something corrected first.

Didnt I already point out that by chosing to post here, in a public forum, I open myself up to people coming in and making corrections or whatever else? I can accept that. Fine! That is how it works.

And that is why you dont see me posting lexigrams here anymore and will not in the future. Make any sense?

This lexigram was an old one. I bumped up for the fun of it. This is a slow forum, so why not? Now it's turned into this. It's all really good though.

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I see nothing wrong with Lexx giving her opinion, so long as she points out the errors in an amicable fashion.

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There isnt anything wrong with that! I also dont see anything wrong with asking a so called friend to not give me their two cents please. Is that such a horrible thing to do?

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Your "command" not to do so is without merit. In the name of free expression, we are all allowed our opinions here in Lindaland, as many of your "friends" should surely be able to attest to.

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Randall, I was not "commanding" anything. I politely asked someone something and thought they could handle and respect it.

Yes, everyone is allowed their opinion. Lexx's has been quite clear in this thread and i am communicating back and forth with her about it just fine. I'm not asking her to change her opinion. Just stop throwing it in other's faces. We know already.

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I find it a bit distressing that you dare to dictate what one can and cannot post on any string...whether yours or anyone else's (within the confines of tactful and polite speech, of course).

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Where did I dictate anything. I asked a favor of someone and thought they would be big enought to respect it and not take it personally.

From what Lexx has said, she has. And says she will not come into my threads with her corrections.

Problem solved. Case closed!

I think we have been handling this just fine and it's just about wrapping itself up.

You can choose to see it as me trying to dictate or command something, but that is not really what I am doing.

Thank you for your input. And giving me a chance to repeat myself once again. LOL

Maybe it will become clearer now?

posted March 16, 2008 02:25 AM         

We are done!

posted March 16, 2008 02:34 PM         

my hand was NOT caught in some strange kind of cookie jar, that contained all the letters that were not found in the inital phrase.

posted March 16, 2008 04:48 PM         

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I don't think anyone said it did.

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Yes, some one did! Have you been keeping up with the thread???

In a round about way, I was lumped into the group of people that annoy fayte because they dont bracket off letters or sneak others into their lexigrams. That is completely absurd to me. That she would think people are doing that on purpous to make themselves look better. WTF?

So, yes. Someone DID say i did.